BECOME A MEMBER     

May 2010     
 

      Home | Articles | Photos/Videos | Hardstand | Donations | Assn News | New Members | Hot Product | Archives

Hi, P‑38 Fans:

It's been a busy, busy few weeks since our last newsletter ‑‑ up to and including last weekend's air show at the Planes of Fame in Chino (you can see a few photos on our website and in the Members area below).

Once again, we had more content that we had space, so if you sent in some material which hasn't shown up yet, keep the faith.  Now, let's get to it!

Blue skies,

PS - Many links will open in a separate window, and if there is a larger version of the photo, just clicking it will bring up the enlargement ‑‑ the "back" button will return you here.

If you still use Internet Explorer for your browser, you may receive a warning about "Active X" controls. This is because of videos we've included in the newsletter.  Just click on the "Allow Blocked Content" and you'll be able to view the videos.

Table of Contents

bullet Another Great Show at Chino
 
bullet P-38 More Popular Than Ever (Really!)
 
bullet Six P-38s in the Air - in 2010?
 
bullet Remember?
 
bullet Those Talented Aussies
 
bullet P-38 v P-51 Debate
 
bullet Maid of Harlech Update
 
bullet So, What's with the Canopy?
 
bullet The Forgotten CBI
 
bullet Anybody See This?
 
bullet Cool Engine Cover!
 
bullet Take Our Poll (OD or Bare Metal?)

 

planes of fame air show

The Chino Air Show was even better than usual this year.  They broke up the aviation activity throughout the day so the visitors had a chance to really enjoy the ground show as well.  Lots to see, and the P-38 Association had several of our pilots signing autographs and miniature P-38s for the kids. Great fun.  Check out the videos below and the photos here.

Six P-38s in the Air - in 2010?

Many of you may have heard by now that the folks at the California Capital Air Show in Sacramento (Sep 11‑12 at Mather Field) in partnership with the Reno Air Races are trying to pull together the most spectacular display of P‑38s since WWII.  Word is that five of the remaining seven airworthy P-38s are committed to appear at the show.  And we are proud to say that we at the P‑38 National Association are now heavily involved in the endeavor.  If we're able to pull off this return of "Kelly's Heroes," it will truly be an aviation event of historic proportions.  Stay tuned.

return to top

NEVER FORGET TO HONOR THEM

Take a moment this coming Memorial Day (May 31) not to take advantage of the latest mattress sale or to get out of town for a "long weekend," but to remember the reason for the holiday.  To quote ole Abe Lincoln: "...that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion."  About Memorial Day.  Check on this VA website to find a Memorial Day service in your area.

P-38 vs. p-51

If you're going to be in the area of the Grand Canyon next month, make sure to stop by and watch this "spirited debate" during our P‑38 Symposium at the Planes of Fame on Saturday, June 26.  Ride-alongs in a P‑38 will also be available for purchase.  You can find all the details here.  You don't have to be a member of the P‑38 Association to attend the Symposium or to order a flight.  Just be sure to mention the P‑38 Association if you call to reserve the flight.

return to top

New Photos/Videos on the Web

VIDEO:

Really nice video from the Recent March ARB Airfest as a salute to USAF aircraft.  The Heritage Flight included the F‑22, F‑15E, P‑38 & F‑86.

return to top

One-on-one interview with P-38 pilot, John Taylor, as part of Flightline Fabrications "Living History Project."

Nice to see that the Red Bull P‑38 (formerly White Lightnin') is still in the air -- Aero Expo 2010.

PHOTO: Great Artwork


Don't know anything about this cool artwork, except the artist is Boris Artzybasheff.  If anyone else has further details, let us know! 

 

 

return to top

ANYONE SEE THIS?

There were a couple of unexpected P‑38 sightings on TV this week.

One was an episode of NCIS (possibly an old one) where they were talking about what a great airplane the P‑38 was, and the guy proceed to open his safe, which was hidden behind a painting of a P-38.  We all know Mark Harmon's relationship to the P‑38 (his dad, Tom Harmon, was a P‑38 pilot for those of you who haven't heard).

The second was, would you believe, an episode on the  Biography Channel about Elton John.  Apparently there was a segment where they had various shapes of balloons bouncing around during the act, and one was an inflatable P‑38!  Don't know what Elton John's connection is -- maybe a relative flew one of the British versions (no superchargers)?

If anyone has any more info about either of these two shows, we'd love to hear it.  Send us an email here.

 

P‑38 Popularity grows

You might think that the popularity of a 60+ year old warbird would diminish over time.  You would be wrong, at least when it comes to the P‑38 Lightning.  There is a gratifying increase in interest among (very) young aviation fans for the P‑38.  This was reinforced this past weekend at the Planes of Fame air show when our P‑38 pilots at times had a hard time keeping up with the youngsters who plopped down their money for a P‑38 Hot Wings that would be autographed by a pilot who had actually flown the P‑38 in combat.  They stood there, with their eyes as big as saucers and the admiration overflowing as our veterans signed and personalized the models or a free photo for them.  It was a very cool thing to experience. (You can order one of the autographed Hot Wings from this special link, but supplies are extremely limited. $10 plus Priority shipping).

Those talented aussies - and Pete!

Another great piece of trench art has shown up -- this one from Ron Peterson, son of P‑38 Assn Member, Albert O. (Pete/Bud) Peterson, Jr.

Peterson was a crew chief in the 18th Fighter Group, 12th Fighter Squadron, in 1943 on Guadalcanal. He says that while waiting for his P‑38 to return from a mission he and some Australians from across the field made about 5 of the models. (Couldn't help but notice that 12FS mug he got at our CafePress store. Shameless plug.)

See more trench art (plus Pete) here.

return to top

Maid of harlech update

Interest has picked up again in the crashed P‑38 off the coast of Wales, which has come to be known as the "Maid of Harlech." 

Ric Gillespie, of The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR), who is involved with the project has stated:  "Museums have raised historic aircraft from salt water in good condition and at great expense only to see them crumble to white powder in a matter of months." 

There is technology available today that could protect and preserve this valuable relic; however, a lot of care (and money) would be needed  for this project to move forward.

The pilot of this P‑38 (shown at right), 2nd Lt Robert Elliott walked away from the crash without a scratch but sadly went MIA three months later in North Africa.

Read more of the update here.

So, what's with the canopy?

We have received this question a few times, so I thought I'd print it here for interest.  This one came from Jim Oxley in Australia:

"I'm an avid fan of the P-38. Think it's just the most beautiful aircraft ever designed. There's something though that has always puzzled me, and despite the numerous books I have on the aircraft, I've never found a satisfactory answer. And that is why, despite several model upgrades, the cumbersome canopy was not replaced with a clear bubble version?"

This is P-38 Historian John Stanaway's response:

"I can only offer a speculation from personal experience with the restored examples which I had the opportunity to examine. For one thing, I surmise that the usual sliding bubble canopy was not practical on the limited space behind the cockpit. The standard segmented canopy was more easily fashioned onto the opening behind the windscreen and ahead of the radio compartment. You may notice that early P‑38s had a clear hatch over the head of the pilot, but slipstream problems perhaps caused unhappy maneuverability characteristics ala the wing/cockpit fillet. Most P‑38 pilots would have gladly dispensed with the x-crossed side panels, but I believe that the framing provided a stiffening of the Perspex panels."

 

C-B-I RECOGNITION

A lot of people feel like the CBI (China/Burma/India) theater of operation has been overlooked in all of the film and television projects.  So, someone is trying to do something about it.

Their petition (directed to HBO, Dreamworks/Steven Spielberg and Playtone/Tom Hanks) says:

"We are petitioning to have the long overlooked and forgotten theater of WWII, the China-Burma-India (CBI) Theater, acknowledged and addressed in a future series or special. The European and Pacific theaters have been featured in two superb series on HBO. We feel that the veterans who sacrificed for their country in the CBI Theater deserve the same recognition afforded to those who fought in the more well-publicized Theaters of WWII. We would like to honor these veterans with similar attention and focus. They deserve no less." (Thanks to Aileen Lim.)

Sign the petition here.

KC-10 EXTENDER TRIBUTE TO THE 38


Here's a nice tribute paid to our favorite plane by the folks from McGuire AFB. Very cool. (Thanks to Hayman Tam.)

 

 

 

return to top

return to top

Hardstand
By John Stanaway

First Jet Victory – Certain or Probable?

Captain Art Jeffrey of the P-38 equipped 479th Fighter Group was leading Newcross Yellow Flight on July 29, 1944 when he encountered some straggling 100th Bomb Group B‑17s heading home from a successful bombing mission to Wilhelmshaven. He hovered over one bomber at about 11,000 feet when a curious Me‑163 arced toward the Americans apparently in a glide with its power off.

Me-163At this point in the war, very few sightings of reaction‑powered German rockets and jets had been made. The Me‑262 and bat‑winged 163 were highly secret weapons, and the German Luftwaffe was not eager to reveal the types to the Allies before they were ready to be used in force. Jeffrey had one German aircraft to his credit by this date, and he was a highly skilled P‑38 pilot, quite capable of taking on anything the enemy could throw at American bombers.

As it happened, Jeffrey attacked the cruising rocket, and reported numerous strikes on its compact but sturdy frame before the German pilot obviously decided to end the encounter by firing his engine and diving into the clouds at about an altitude of 3,000 feet. Jeffrey screamed after the fleeing enemy at an indicated speed of over 500 miles per hour before ending the dive at about an altitude of 1,500 feet, blacking out in the process. The Me‑163 was last seen diving away at high speed over 500 miles per hour.

After completing his report, and initially claiming a probable, Jeffrey was credited with the first destroyed enemy jet fighter in aerial combat. Gun camera evidence and the testimony of his wingman who managed to struggle close enough to see the jet heading down almost vertically into the cloud mass at high speed convinced 8th Fighter Command that the German had indeed gone into the ground, since no known aircraft at that time could recover from a steep dive at that speed and altitude.

Postwar evidence of a Me‑163 being lost (or indeed even being damaged) is non‑existent, so the conclusion must be that confirmation was premature. Other similar combat reports from later encounters were duly recorded as probably destroyed, so it is likely that this credit should have been recorded thusly. However, if we discount all doubtful claims then the number of confirmed enemy aircraft destroyed would be significantly lower.

What did happen to the Me‑163? Since we have no available report of a lost or damaged aircraft – and we know that Jeffrey did inflict serious damage on his target that day – we can only speculate that 1/JG400 (the likely unit to which the 163 was assigned) was being very discreet about the incident. Be that as it may, we can assume that some Luftwaffe personnel received major league chewings-out over the damage or loss of a top-secret weapon.

-------

Read About the 479th Fighter Group (AKA "Riddle's Raiders")
in John Stanaway's excellent book.

return to top

Donations

If you'd like to support the P‑38 Association (any donation at all will help), just click the button below.  Thanks! We appreciate it.

The generous donations from our Association and P‑38 Newsletter members as well as the "legacy" donations made to us by the families and friends of those who have folded their wings, have enabled us to continue our mission of keeping alive the memory of the P‑38 and all those involved with her throughout the war years and beyond. And we thank you.

(A new, secure window will open where you can enter any donation amount. Thanks!)


 

This Month's Donors

Thanks to all of you for helping to keep us thriving. The supporters with a star ☆ by their names are our special donors, who have made exceptionally generous donations.

IN MEMORY OF ROY KING

Rosalie McCoy
Monroe Lair
Chauncy & Nancy Rucker
Ron & Marilyn Smith
Gene and Anna Belle Thomas
 

IN SUPPORT OF OUR 3RD ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING IN VALLE AZ.

Robert M. Andraski
Dayle DeBry 
Carter Greene
Ian B. Mackenzie
Joe P. Onesty
Hewitt G. Youtz

GENERAL DONATIONS

Tom Cheek
Anthony Sacco

return to top

P‑38 ASSOCIATION NEWS

return to top

planes OF FAME AIR SHOW EVENT

We had our most successful event in a very long time this past weekend at the Planes of Fame Air Show in Chino.  There were two P‑38s participating, 23‑Skidoo and Allied Fighters, and our pilots spent both days signing autographs for the lines of fans who waited patiently for their signed photo or Hot Wings airplane (for the kids).

For the first time, we had more volunteers than we knew what to do with -- headed up by President Bob Alvis, Treasurer Howard Ramshorn and his wife MaryAnn and son‑in‑law Adam Lieberman, VP Quentin Roberts, PR Director Dayle DeBry, Director Ron Smith and his wife Marilyn, plus our P‑38 pilots Bob Waggoner, Joe Onesty, John Stege and Everett Farnham with his wife, Joan.  Enjoy all the photos here.

We'd also like to give Dayle DeBry a big attagirl -- she signed up more new members during the show than we've had since the Association began back in 1987.  Great job, Dayle!

P-38 combat pilots panel

We told you in the last issue about this event at the Planes of Fame, but we had no idea it would be such a huge success.  There were nearly 800 people in attendance, and we're proud to say that our guys did a heck of a good job.  They kept their presentations fairly brief, but then the floor was open to questions, and they fielded all questions like Manny Ramirez coming in to catch a pop fly to left field.

Here are some shots of some of our guys who spoke on the panel:

 


Bob Waggoner

Joe Onesty
(Who gave a nice shout out
to all the crew members in
the audience, saying the
pilots couldn't have even
done their jobs without the support of the crew .)

Bob Carlton

Fox Olsen

Everett Farnham

John Hedenberg

Everett Miller
(P-38 Ace)
 

New Brochures!

After WAY too long, we've finally got some new, beautiful brochures to "get the word out" about our organization.  Designed by our new Director of Public Relations, Dayle DeBry, and Bob Alvis (with a little input from yours truly), Dayle has put together this fantastic promo piece for our Association.  We handed them out at the booth during the Planes of Fame air show last weekend and had people coming back, asking for more copies!

 

To see an enlarged version, it's here on our website.

GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING

Hope everyone is planning to attend our 3rd Annual General Membership meeting next month (June 25‑26) in Arizona.  It's shaping up to be a good one.  We have moved closer to the Grand Canyon this time because (let's face it) there's not a lot to do in Williams after dark -- so this time we're staying at a very nice hotel in Tusayan, which is a much more tourist oriented town.  So, although the rooms are a bit more pricey this time around, at least we'll have a bunch to do during non-event hours.

Our events will still be held at the Planes of Fame Museum in Valle, except for our closing night dinner -- which will be at the hotel.  So, anyone wishing to have an adult beverage or two won't have to worry about driving afterwards.  Walking to your room will be your biggest challenge.

The "P‑38 v P‑51" panel is (we have a feeling) going to be a doozy.  We're looking forward to a spirited debate, with the final outcome being, naturally, that the P-38 was the best overall combat airplane in WWII. Be there or be square.

There's no charge for the events, other than our closing night dinner ceremony on Saturday.  In addition to the membership meeting - where we can bring everyone up to par on the P‑38 Association's upcoming activities -- there will be the Friday night BBQ and the Planes of Fame fly‑in on Saturday.  The PoF P‑38 (23 Skidoo) will be there and available for anyone wishing to purchase a flight.  As some of you know, we had a little radiator problem last year, which preempted the flights which had been reserved.  To avoid any possible problems like that Steve Hinton will be taking the P‑38 over a few days early to guarantee that she will be there -- or guarantee as much as you can with a 60-year-old warbird.

Not sure if the special rate is still available at the hotel, since the rooms we booked were close to sold out a couple of days ago, but you can get all the details about the event here on our website. If you decide to reserve a ride in the P‑38, you can find details there as well, and make sure to mention that you're with the P‑38 Association when you call.

FTHF Award to Tallichet

Air Force World War II pilot David Tallichet (and former owner of the P‑38 Ruff Stuff) was posthumously given an Excellence in Aviation award by the Flight Test Historical Foundation, and we were invited to attend.  The event held May 8 at the Proud Bird Restaurant near LAX (a popular favorite with aviation fans) and the P‑38 Association was well represented by our President, Bob Alvis as well as P‑38 pilot Joe Onesty and PR Director, Dayle DeBry.
 


General Robert Cardenas &
Assn President, Bob Alvis

Dayle DeBry, Gen. Cardenas
& Bob Alvis


Robert Sternfels (pilot of "Sandman" during the Ploesti Raid)
& Joe Onesty

New Meeting Format

Another good thing that has just happened is that we will be changing our monthly meetings format and venue.  In the recent past, it has been strictly a business meeting, but it will now switch to a more generic meeting which will be open to the general public.  We will still be meeting once per month, but it will now be on the third Sunday of each month.  The time will now be from 2-4:00, and each meeting will feature a special guest speaker.  The topics will not be strictly related to the P-38, but will cover a wide variety of subjects.  (Let's face it, many of our members have heard a lot of the P‑38 stories before...)

Flabob Airport in Riverside has been nice enough to invite us to use their facility, and as we mentioned, we're opening up these meetings now to the general public.  Our intention is to expose more people to our organization and hopefully begin bringing in even more members with this new format.  There is no charge for the meeting, and it will take place in the afternoon when people have generally had a chance to attend services and/or have a little lunch.

The "business" meetings that were formerly held every third Tuesday will now be included three times per year at the beginning of these regularly scheduled Sunday meetings.  We will let you know the dates in advance by posting them on the website.  If you'd like to be notified by email, just send a message to us at this email address and we'll let you know which Sunday meeting is scheduled to include a business meeting as well.

First Meeting:

DATE:  July 18
TIME:  2-4:00
LOCATION:  Flabob Airport (visit their website for info about the airport and directions)
GUEST SPEAKER:  TBA

return to top

We're pulling together our "New Members" list now, to include all the new members who signed up at the Planes of Fame air show last weekend.

So, look for our new members list in the next edition.

P-38 Association Exclusive

Limited Quantities/Sizes Available

Just in time for summer, these custom tees were designed for us by Victory Girls to honor specific people and events of the P‑38 and are not available anywhere else.

Designs are on the back, with the P‑38 Association logo is on the front.

CLICK TO ENLARGE IMAGE

CHUG-CHUG CHARLIE:   Not many men went from flying P‑38s to becoming an astronaut, but Joe Walker, who we honor with this shirt, did it.  In 1963, Walker made two X‑15 flights beyond 100 kilometers - the edge of space. These were the only powered space plane flights past that threshold until SpaceShipOne in 2004. These flights qualified him as an astronaut under both U.S. Air Force and Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (International Aeronautical Federation) rules.

Choose Size

ELBOW-ROOM DOTTIE:  This shirt honors Lt. "Satch" Hiram, Jr. who named is P‑38 after a waitress named Dottie, who worked in the pilot's favorite watering hole in Glendale, CA, "The Elbow Room."

Choose Size

Thanks very much for subscribing to our newsletter. We hope you enjoyed it. If someone referred you to this newsletter, but you do not receive it directly and would like to, you can join by sending a blank email here.

For questions regarding anything in this newsletter, please send an email to the Editor, Kelly B. Kalcheim here.

If you'd like to donate an article or have an interesting tidbit to contribute, you can send them to us here. We will credit you with the information.